[sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT

[Adam Frost]

Instead of the "buttons" as you call it, would the scissor symbol |>| with
the hinge symbol work to show that the fingers open and spread?

Adam

On 8/3/07, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> What I'm trying to get is a way to reduce the amount of writing.  I
> understand full-well that it is a hinge movement, but the question was asked
> whether three hand shapes are needed to separate out from "puppet" hands to
> "full spread out" hands.  To me, the "buttons" indicate a full open from all
> joints, therefore if coupled with a hinge would show a "spread" hand, not a
> flat hand, without having to put all three handshapes -- which might be
> mistaken for fingerspelling or an actual movement in space of three hands.
>
> Then the difference between "puppets" and "sunshine" or "lights" would be
> a matter of movements, not having to write multiple handshapes to any one of
> several "open" handshapes from a single closed one.
>
> Charles
>
>
> *Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
> How about this?
>
> *Flash the Light*
> *The open and closed buttons (in addition to the hinge movement would
> indicate that the hands open to full extension (spread out), not simply
> "puppet" hands.
> *
>
>
> *
> *
>
>
> *Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> The sign that is being written is a quick on-off of the light(s). So it
> starts closed, then opens and quickly closes. The most accurate spelling is
> with the three handshaps, but it just feels like there are too many hands.
> (I didn't know humans had more than two hands!) The other problem is that
> there is no general arm (or any other movements for that matter) except for
> the open-close, else the inital writing would have been very good. I tried
> to see if it would work with the finger movement symbols we have (the hindge
> ^), but Stuart pointed out a good one. When the hand opens, are the fingers
> together or spread? The way that it is written, it could mean both. And ASL
> uses both at times, so we can't just say that it means spread here because
> if we want to write a puppet talking over our head, we would be stuck. :-)
> So even though I agree with Kelly Jo that the three handshaps is too much,
> it seems like it is the best way with the choices we have come up with.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Charles Butler"
>
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 04:19:06
> To:"SignWriting List"
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT
>
>
> I guess the movement goes twice, so the one with the down twice expresses
> that most clearly for me.  Perhaps ^^ would be better because the movement
> feels downward to me, not across.
>
> Charles
>
>
> Valerie Sutton wrote: If you search by symbols, you can find a small
> listing of all of our
> versions in SignPuddle right now...
>
> See attached screen capture...
>
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