[sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT

[Charles Butler]

That's an idea.  Double scissors might work.

Charles


Adam Frost <adam at frostvillage.com> wrote: Instead of the "buttons" as you call it, would the scissor symbol |>| with the hinge symbol work to show that the fingers open and spread?

Adam

On 8/3/07,  Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> wrote: What I'm trying to get is a way to reduce the amount of writing.  I understand full-well that it is a hinge movement, but the question was asked whether three hand shapes are needed to separate out from "puppet" hands to "full spread out" hands.  To me, the "buttons" indicate a full open from all joints, therefore if coupled with a hinge would show a "spread" hand, not a flat hand, without having to put all three handshapes -- which might be mistaken for fingerspelling or an actual movement in space of three hands. 

Then the difference between "puppets" and "sunshine" or "lights" would be a matter of movements, not having to write multiple handshapes to any one of several "open" handshapes from a single closed one. 

Charles


Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com > wrote:
 How about this?

 Flash the Light
The open and closed buttons (in addition to the hinge movement would indicate that the hands open to full extension (spread out), not simply "puppet" hands.  

 






Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:  The sign that is being written is a quick on-off of the light(s). So it starts closed, then opens and quickly closes. The most accurate spelling is with the three handshaps, but it just feels like there are too many hands. (I didn't know humans had more than two hands!) The other problem is that there  is no general arm (or any  other movements for that matter) except for the open-close, else the inital writing would have been very good. I tried to see if it would work with the finger movement symbols we have (the hindge ^), but Stuart pointed out a good one. When the hand opens, are the fingers together or spread? The way that it is written, it could mean both. And ASL uses both at times, so we can't just say that it means spread here because if we want to write a puppet talking over our head, we would be stuck. :-) So even though I agree with Kelly Jo that the three handshaps is too much, it seems like it is the best way with the
 choices we have come up with.  

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: "Charles Butler" 

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 04:19:06 
To:"SignWriting List" 
Subject: Re: [sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT


I guess the movement goes twice, so the one with the down twice  expresses that most clearly for  me.  Perhaps ^^ would be better because the movement feels downward to me, not across.

Charles


Valerie Sutton  wrote: If you search by symbols, you can find a small listing of all of our 
versions in SignPuddle right now... 

See attached screen capture...

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