[sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT

[CWren at doe.k12.ga.us]

What are you guys referring to as 'scissors'?

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I'd like to see that, but I like the idea!
KJ



Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:47:26 -0700
From: chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT
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That's an idea.  Double scissors might work.

Charles


Adam Frost <adam at frostvillage.com> wrote:
Instead of the "buttons" as you call it, would the scissor symbol |>| with 
the hinge symbol work to show that the fingers open and spread?

Adam

On 8/3/07, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
What I'm trying to get is a way to reduce the amount of writing.  I 
understand full-well that it is a hinge movement, but the question was 
asked whether three hand shapes are needed to separate out from "puppet" 
hands to "full spread out" hands.  To me, the "buttons" indicate a full 
open from all joints, therefore if coupled with a hinge would show a 
"spread" hand, not a flat hand, without having to put all three handshapes 
-- which might be mistaken for fingerspelling or an actual movement in 
space of three hands. 

Then the difference between "puppets" and "sunshine" or "lights" would be 
a matter of movements, not having to write multiple handshapes to any one 
of several "open" handshapes from a single closed one. 

Charles



Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com > wrote:
How about this?


Flash the Light
The open and closed buttons (in addition to the hinge movement would 
indicate that the hands open to full extension (spread out), not simply 
"puppet" hands. 





Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote: 
The sign that is being written is a quick on-off of the light(s). So it 
starts closed, then opens and quickly closes. The most accurate spelling 
is with the three handshaps, but it just feels like there are too many 
hands. (I didn't know humans had more than two hands!) The other problem 
is that there is no general arm (or any other movements for that matter) 
except for the open-close, else the inital writing would have been very 
good. I tried to see if it would work with the finger movement symbols we 
have (the hindge ^), but Stuart pointed out a good one. When the hand 
opens, are the fingers together or spread? The way that it is written, it 
could mean both. And ASL uses both at times, so we can't just say that it 
means spread here because if we want to write a puppet talking over our 
head, we would be stuck. :-) So even though I agree with Kelly Jo that the 
three handshaps is too much, it seems like it is the best way with the 
choices we have come up with. 

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: "Charles Butler" 

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 04:19:06 
To:"SignWriting List" 
Subject: Re: [sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT


I guess the movement goes twice, so the one with the down twice expresses 
that most clearly for me.  Perhaps ^^ would be better because the movement 
feels downward to me, not across.

Charles


Valerie Sutton wrote: If you search by symbols, you can find a small 
listing of all of our 
versions in SignPuddle right now... 

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