[sw-l] Explanations of the meanings of symbols are coming...

Fri Aug 3 16:54:32 EDT 2007

SignWriting List
August 3, 2007

Hello Everyone!
My guests (some old DAC members) have now gone. It was wonderful to  
see them again.

I see there are some misunderstandings on the meanings of some of the  
symbols, like scissors, and traveling fingerspelling and so forth, so  
give me a chance to explain....I will try to take each message one by  
one in the sequence they were posted ;-))

So more is coming...

Val ;-)

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On Aug 3, 2007, at 11:50 AM, CWren at doe.k12.ga.us wrote:

>
> What are you guys referring to as 'scissors'?
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> RE: [sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT
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>
> I'd like to see that, but I like the idea!
> KJ
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> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:47:26 -0700
> From: chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
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> That's an idea.  Double scissors might work.
>
> Charles
>
>
> Adam Frost <adam at frostvillage.com> wrote:
> Instead of the "buttons" as you call it, would the scissor symbol | 
> >| with the hinge symbol work to show that the fingers open and  
> spread?
>
> Adam
>
> On 8/3/07, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> What I'm trying to get is a way to reduce the amount of writing.  I  
> understand full-well that it is a hinge movement, but the question  
> was asked whether three hand shapes are needed to separate out from  
> "puppet" hands to "full spread out" hands.  To me, the "buttons"  
> indicate a full open from all joints, therefore if coupled with a  
> hinge would show a "spread" hand, not a flat hand, without having  
> to put all three handshapes -- which might be mistaken for  
> fingerspelling or an actual movement in space of three hands.
>
> Then the difference between "puppets" and "sunshine" or "lights"  
> would be a matter of movements, not having to write multiple  
> handshapes to any one of several "open" handshapes from a single  
> closed one.
>
> Charles
>
>
>
> Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com > wrote:
> How about this?
>
>
> Flash the Light
> The open and closed buttons (in addition to the hinge movement  
> would indicate that the hands open to full extension (spread out),  
> not simply "puppet" hands.
>
>
>
>
>
> Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
> The sign that is being written is a quick on-off of the light(s).  
> So it starts closed, then opens and quickly closes. The most  
> accurate spelling is with the three handshaps, but it just feels  
> like there are too many hands. (I didn't know humans had more than  
> two hands!) The other problem is that there is no general arm (or  
> any other movements for that matter) except for the open-close,  
> else the inital writing would have been very good. I tried to see  
> if it would work with the finger movement symbols we have (the  
> hindge ^), but Stuart pointed out a good one. When the hand opens,  
> are the fingers together or spread? The way that it is written, it  
> could mean both. And ASL uses both at times, so we can't just say  
> that it means spread here because if we want to write a puppet  
> talking over our head, we would be stuck. :-) So even though I  
> agree with Kelly Jo that the three handshaps is too much, it seems  
> like it is the best way with the choices we have come up with.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Charles Butler"
>
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 04:19:06
> To:"SignWriting List"
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] FLASH-THE-LIGHT
>
>
> I guess the movement goes twice, so the one with the down twice  
> expresses that most clearly for me.  Perhaps ^^ would be better  
> because the movement feels downward to me, not across.
>
> Charles
>
>
> Valerie Sutton wrote: If you search by symbols, you can find a  
> small listing of all of our
> versions in SignPuddle right now...
>
> See attached screen capture...
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