[sw-l] HAMBURGER

[Adam Frost]

Sorry that you couldn't see my writing. Val has it in her email she  
just sent. I think I understand what you are thinking. Here is  
something that helped me.

First thing you have to realize is that there are some handshapes that  
are a little different, but mean the same thing. Such is the case  
here. Here are pairs of the same palm orientations.

  "Right hand" *

"Left hand" *

Now, I generally would pick the handshape with the fingers going up  
verses going down because the palm is facing up in real life. That is  
also why your students choose it that way also. Even though the other  
would be correct, reading it would be difficult. ;-)

Adam

*Notice that I put left and right in quotations. That is because there  
are no true left and right handshapes, but they are commonly used as  
one or the other.

On Nov 19, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:

> Hi Adam and everyone,
>
>     See the attached diagram.  I use the left hand for the sign  
> HAMBURGER.   I cannot read or see your writing.
>
>     André
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam Frost
> To: SignWriting List
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] HAMBURGER
>
> I personally would write hamburger like this. I am not sure what you  
> are saying with (D).
>
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Nov 19, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>
>> SignWriting List
>> November 19, 2008
>>
>> Hello Andre!
>> Thank you for this question.
>>
>> Actually, none of them are correct!
>>
>> I will write a new email message explaining how to write the sign,  
>> plus explain the SignSpelling Rule called "Always write the  
>> Position of Contact"...
>>
>> So watch for my next message...
>>
>> And Stefan and Adam...please feel free to teach also...I welcome  
>> your excellent advice, diagrams and explanations...
>>
>> And I hope everyone will continue to ask questions for feedback on  
>> your writing...it is very helpful to everyone who uses SignWriting,  
>> to discuss spelling issues...
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>> -------------
>>
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Val, Adam, Stefan and everyone,
>>>
>>>     I went to the school for the Deaf this morning.  Deaf students  
>>> were excited to see me.  One Deaf kid wanted me to show her a sign  
>>> for HAMBURGER in LSQ in the computer.  However, Deaf kids were  
>>> confused because they figured out it and didn't read it easily.
>>>
>>>     According to the rule (see the attached diagram (D),  the sign  
>>> for HAMBURGER (A) is correct.  But other signs for HAMBURGER (B)  
>>> and (C) aren't correct.  But, Deaf kids read easily (B) and (C).
>>>
>>>     Regards,
>>>
>>>     André
>>>  <SW HAMBURGER.doc>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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