[sw-l] Handshape question, "Stand" and "Look"

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
November 30, 2008

Hello Everyone and Natasha!
It is a good thing I receive both the Digest and the normal mail  
version of the SignWriting List messages, or I would never have seen  
this message from Natasha, pasted below. It only came into the Digest  
for me, but did not come to my email box, so I guess the SW List  
software, that manages all the messages, is not working perfectly...as  
you know, the SW List software is managed at Valencia Community  
College in Florida, and I have no control over how it is setup...But I  
will write to their technicians to see if we can figure it  
out...anyway...thank you, Natasha, for your message below, and I will  
be happy to answer it shortly...and I hope others will also answer  
it...I love the way we all chime in and give our feedback to each  
other...it is a wonderful experience, isn't it, to share like this...

Val ;-)

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> From: "Natasha Escalada-Westland" <shash90 at hotmail.com>
> Date: November 30, 2008 7:33:52 AM PST
> To: "SignWriting Listserve" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject: [sw-l] Handshape question, "Stand" and "Look"
> Reply-To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>
>
> Greetings SW colleagues,
>
> I am developing a lesson on teaching classifers and I am debating  
> which handshapes to use in my presentation.  The ASL signpuddle  
> dictionary cites:
>
>
>    and      as the handshapes for "stand" and "look-at" respectively.
>
> As I look at myself signing these, and as I think of using them as  
> classifiers to describe types or ways of standing or looking-at, I  
> see the following actual handshapes used:
>
>
>   and
>
> The "Lessons in SignWriting Web Gallery" explanation of Handshape  
> group 2 doesn't include the above handsapes, although I do  
> understand them to mean index and middle fingers bent slightly at  
> the proximal knuckle.
>
> First question...  Do the signs in the ASL SignPuddle need to be  
> updated as written for these concepts?  To keep the fingers straight  
> requires unnatural lifting of the shoulder and elbow.
>
> Second question... is there an updated lesson book or handshape list  
> that includes the second set of handshapes somwhere on the  
> SignWriting website?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Natasha Escalada-Westland, M.Ed. (D/HH), Macromedia Cert.
> www.westlandasl.com
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